Mon - Sat: 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM
Pacific Time (Los Angeles)
LIVEJoin Demo Call
Interactive Training Session

Glossary

What Is Payment to Income?

The ratio that decides whether the payment a customer likes is a payment a lender will fund.

Payment to income, or PTI, is the monthly vehicle payment divided by the applicant's gross monthly income, written as a percentage. Lenders cap it by program, so the ratio decides whether the payment a customer likes is a payment that actually funds. Together with loan to value it shapes every structure a special finance desk builds.

What does payment to income mean?

Payment to income measures the vehicle payment against what the customer earns. The payment is the one that will be on the contract, and on many programs it includes the insurance the lender requires the customer to carry. The income is gross monthly income, before tax and before anything else comes out, and it is gross income the lender can document, which is a much narrower thing than what a customer says they make.

The ratio exists because a credit score describes how somebody paid in the past and says nothing about whether the payment in front of them fits this month. A strong file with thin income can be a worse risk on a $700 payment than a rebuilt file with steady hours. Lenders in every tier watch payment to income, and the lower the tier, the harder the cap.

How do you calculate payment to income?

Divide the payment by gross monthly income. Say an applicant grosses $3,800 a month and the pencil comes out at $570. Illustrative figures only. That is 15 percent. If the program caps payment to income at 13 percent, the payment has to land near $494, which is a $76 gap the desk has to find somewhere in the structure.

The levers are the usual ones and they fight each other. A longer term lowers the payment and passes the ratio, but it raises loan to value and pushes the customer deeper into negative equity, which the same lender is also watching. More cash lowers both at once, which is why the cash conversation happens early on a subprime file. Adding a co-applicant with documentable income raises the bottom of the fraction instead of squeezing the top, and in a household where two people work it is often the cleanest fix.

Questions? Request a Call Back

Leave your number and a lead specialist calls you back to answer your questions about pricing, coverage, and setup. Mon - Sat, 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM Pacific.

Ready to start? No call needed.See Pricing

Prefer to talk right now? Call or text 844-376-2274.

How lenders verify the income behind the number

Income counts when it can be proved. Pay stubs covering a recent period, bank statements showing the deposits, a tax return or a profit and loss statement for a self employed applicant, and an award letter for fixed income are the usual evidence, and each of them arrives as a stipulation attached to an approval rather than as a suggestion. Overtime, tips, side work and cash income are exactly where a deal that looked funded on Saturday comes apart on Tuesday.

So the order matters. Capture income and employment on the application, ask for the documentation while the customer is still in the store or still holding their phone, and confirm the figure before a structure is built on it. A payment to income ratio calculated on a number nobody has seen evidence of is a guess with a decimal point.

Where a car deal breaks on payment to income

The commonest break is gross against net. A customer quotes take home pay, because that is the number they live on, the salesperson writes it on the worksheet, and the ratio gets built on the wrong figure. Ask for the gross amount and ask how it is paid, because hourly with overtime, salary, commission and self employed income all document differently and a lender treats them differently too.

Second is the squeeze. When a file is tight on payment to income and heavy on loan to value at the same time, only a narrow band of structures clears both, and finding it by resubmitting one pencil at a time burns hours and goodwill. Work the two ratios together on the worksheet, decide whether the answer is cash, a different unit or a different program, and go back to the customer once with a structure that funds.

Where payment to income shows up in LeadLocate

The income side arrives with the application. The online credit application collects employment, income, residence and the cash a customer plans to put up, filled in by the customer on their own phone, with a co-applicant on the same file and ITIN as well as social security number applicants supported, so the figure the finance office works from is the one the applicant entered and signed. When an approval comes back with conditions, the stipulations workflow requests the stubs or statements and the customer uploads them to that same record.

The payment side sits right beside it. Cash, finance and lease worksheets in SecureWebX match the desking engine in LeadLocate CRM, and a worksheet attaches to the application, so the payment, the income and the documents that support both are one file instead of three systems and a text thread.

What payment to income is often confused with

Debt to income is the wider ratio: every monthly obligation on the credit report plus the new payment, measured against gross income. Payment to income looks only at the vehicle. Lenders often apply both, and a file can clear one and fail the other, usually because a student loan or another auto loan is already there.

Loan to value is the collateral ratio and answers a different question entirely. Disposable income, which some programs calculate as income less rent and obligations, is a third test again. The automotive sales glossary covers the rest of the finance vocabulary, and the special finance manager page shows how a store works these files through a week.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is a good payment to income ratio?

Good means inside the cap on the program the deal is submitted to. Caps tighten as the credit tier drops, and some programs count required insurance inside the payment, so the number that matters is the one on the lender's program sheet rather than a rule of thumb from the desk.

Is payment to income based on gross or net income?

Gross on nearly every program, and gross that can be documented. Take home pay is the figure customers know, so ask for the gross amount and how it is paid, then plan on proving it with stubs, bank statements or a return.

Does adding a co-applicant lower payment to income?

It can, because a co-applicant's documentable income is added to the bottom of the ratio. Both people are on the credit and on the contract, so it is a decision the customer makes with the whole picture in front of them.

Can a longer term fix a payment to income problem?

It lowers the payment, which helps the ratio, and it raises loan to value at the same moment. On a tight file the two caps have to be solved together, usually with some combination of cash, unit and program rather than term alone.

More Resources from LeadLocate

Watch an application and a pencil on one file

A specialist takes a credit application from a text link, requests a stipulation and attaches the worksheet, so income and payment sit on the same record.

Have questions first? Leave your number and a lead specialist calls you back to walk through pricing, coverage, and setup.

Prefer to talk right now? Call or text 844-376-2274.

LeadLocate
Accepted credit cards: Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discover
LeadLocate™ All rights reserved. Other product and company names mentioned herein are the property of their respective owners.

Answers to your questions:

What is LeadLocate?

LeadLocate is an all-in-one lead generation software and CRM platform. We generate in-market sales leads and provide you with all the tools necessary to sell that customer. All of your leads, texts, calls, emails, deals, and files are available in one place, accessible with a single login.

Accepted credit cards: Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discover
LeadLocate™ All rights reserved. Other product and company names mentioned herein are the property of their respective owners.

Answers to your questions:

What is LeadLocate?

LeadLocate is an all-in-one lead generation software and CRM platform. We generate in-market sales leads and provide you with all the tools necessary to sell that customer. All of your leads, texts, calls, emails, deals, and files are available in one place, accessible with a single login.